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Quartzsite AZ, Make the Changes Now or Not at All

by on July 16, 2011

The problems in Quartzsite Arizona are not new problems but they are continued and growing problems. Changes need to be made and they need to begin now. So many blogs and comments on these blogs written by the town’s people talk about cleaning up town and starting from the top. The town of Quartzsite is in the National media and now is the time to make the changes. It all starts from the top and the major issues will go away. Nothing will happen if no one is willing to hold office as either mayor, or city council. What a great opportunity this small town has at this very moment. I am also encouraging the young adults of the town of Quartzsite to file your applications to run for city council. There is no reason to fear a position like city council or doubt your abilities to perform the duties. As we have seen in the past many incompetent people have held the position of city council so don’t fear and run for office. At the very least draw up an application using the examples I have provided to recall any or all current city council members.

Reasons to start with taking over city council:

1. Having three or more city council members that are fair and just will allow the citizens to speak, to address real issues, and properly file real complaints of wrong doing.

2. With three or more city council members that are fair and just a fair decision can be made to fire the town manager, or any other wrong doing city employees.

3. With three or more city council members that are fair and just a real investigation can be requested by the people and approved by the council to investigate Chief Jeff Gilbert while he remains on paid leave.

4. With three or more city council members that are fair and just the town can help with the $15 million offer by Charles Richard Oldham to bail out La Paz County.

5.  With three or more city council members that are fair and just the books can be opened and see more details of the finances and where those 8 to 10 unnamed checks are going.

The town needs to take the opportunity it has being in the spotlight of national media to make the changes now or not at all. It is up to the town to make this decision or sit back and keep complaining while the national media losses interest and nothing changes.

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6 Comments
  1. Milton W T permalink

    In general, things need to be done quickly. The people should be involved and protesting daily! Yes, there should be a new city council but new elections and all that are simply going to take too long. People’s attention spans are short and despite some (kudos Keith Olbermann, Fox News, and anyone who has kept this in the spotlight) of the media’s efforts it simply won’t work everyday that the council and chief Gilbert hold onto power and take public money the worse this is going to be and it won’t end as happily as it could. The sooner something big happens, the more that goes on against the council the better.

  2. Milton W T permalink

    As this post says, now or never. At least at this moment never seems to be winning. I hope that changes fast.

  3. Citizen for Quartzsite permalink

    You stated above and (my comments will follow IN CAPS):

    Reasons to start with taking over city council:

    1. Having three or more city council members that are fair and just will allow the citizens to speak, to address real issues, and properly file real complaints of wrong doing. TRUE, AND WE HAVE SUCH A BALANCE.

    2. With three or more city council members that are fair and just a fair decision can be made to fire the town manager, or any other wrong doing city employees. TRUE, IF THERE IS DUE PROCESS AND PROVEN WRONG-DOING BY ‘ANY’ TOWN EMPLOYEE, THEN WE AGREE.

    3. With three or more city council members that are fair and just a real investigation can be requested by the people and approved by the council to investigate Chief Jeff Gilbert while he remains on paid leave. TRUE, THERE HAS BEEN INVESTIGATIONS AND THE FINDINGS ARE ABOUT TO COME OUT. CHIEF GILBERT WAS NOT ON PAID LEAVE BUT INSTEAD DOING HIS JOB AS HE IS CONTRACTED TO DO. HE WILL NOT SHIRK HIS DUTY. ONLY IF HE IS PROVEN GUILTY WOULD THAT STATUS CHANGE.

    4. With three or more city council members that are fair and just the town can help with the $15 million offer by Charles Richard Oldham to bail out La Paz County. TRUE, IF THE COUNCIL BELIEVES IT A GOOD THING. UNFORTUNATELY MANY DO NOT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THIS MINORITY GROUP AND WHY ALL THIS VIRAL NEGATIVITY HAS CONTINUED, TIME WILL TELL. NO QUESTION, LA PAZ NEEDS HELP IN SOME WAY BUT WE ARE SURE THERE ARE BETTER WAYS, AND BETTER OR MORE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE TO HELP. THIS IS NOT FOR THE TOWN OF QUARTZSITE TO DO BUT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE STATE. IT IS THE COUNTY’S PROBLEM DIRECTLY. MOST OF THESE ITEMS LISTED HERE ARE OUT OF CONTEXT AND WITHOUT THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE OF NOT BOTH, BUT ALL SIDES.

    5. With three or more city council members that are fair and just the books can be opened and see more details of the finances and where those 8 to 10 unnamed checks are going. THE BUDGETS, BALANCE SHEETS AND AUDITS HAVE ALL BEEN PUBLISHED INCLUDING THE EMPLOYEES’ SALARIES, ALL OF THEM.

    The town needs to take the opportunity it has being in the spotlight of national media to make the changes now or not at all. It is up to the town to make this decision or sit back and keep complaining while the national media losses interest and nothing changes.

    THE ‘TOWN’ DID NOT ASK TO BE IN THE MEDIA, THE MINORITY WENT ‘VIRAL’. THE TOWN IS NOT COMPLAINING, ONLY A MINORITY IS. THE MINORITY DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO COMPLAIN, BUT THE MAJORITY ALSO HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY THEY ARE ASKING FOR CHANGE FOR PERSONAL REASONS OF GREED NOT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS. IF THE NATIONAL MEDIA KNEW ALL SIDES OF THIS, THE MEDIA WOULD NOT HAVE EVEN PRINTED IT, BUT AS USUAL, SENSATIONALISM SELLS.

  4. Milton W T permalink

    as usual the pig “citizen” lies lies lies distorts and tows the council line. Multiple sources including video have documented the crimes committed by the council, cronies like the town manager, and gilbert. Video doesn’t lie and neither do a huge number of independent sources including oh, lets see, Regular townspeople! 10 rank and file police officers aka Quartzsite 10. Outside associations (Azcops for one). Agencies conducting investigations (several) and etc.

    I have 100% credit on this issue. I emailed some Quartzsite citizens and even one email to the esteemed Jennifer Jones. My own analysis is that Foster, Jones and the people are right; the council and gilbert are Wrong!

    “budgets, balance sheets, etc. have been published including employees salaries.”

    COMPLETE BULLSHIT. such budgets and audits (there are no audits completed) would be on the internet for all to see. Greedy Gilbert even got a pay raise after his chief position was extended by the council in Feb. 2011. His current salary is unknown.

    Finally, the only minority are the asshats on the council, the town manager, other corrupt officials, and the butthole bully boy Nazi chief Gilbert who is the muscle of this whole operation. The Vast Majority are against this loss of liberty and freedom.

    I had no skin in the game a long while ago. I don’t even live in Quartzsite, much less AZ. I do live in a desert town and I am for good governance. After Jone’s video hit youtube and news reports of Quartzsite being placed under “emergency” aka martial law I became hugely interested in what is going on in this town and after impartial analysis, website surfing, and youtube video watching, it is clear that Foster and Jones are right and the council and their turd hangers on are WRONG!!!!!!!!

  5. Citizen for Quartzsite permalink

    Name-calling Milton W T, is that what you are all about? I do live in Quartzsite, I have done the research and I look at all of the evidence to date, not carefully edited short videos cut from the entire piece. That’s the problem here, only these edited videos were sent out by this minority, and they are the minority if you lived here and knew the facts. All of this has been orchestrated like a chess game to get the heat off of the leaders of this minority. You could not have “impartial” analysis since the only online data, pictures, videos, etc., you have seen are only form one-side, like I said, not from ALL sides. The only ‘sources’ you have are from one-side, not ALL sides. You only wrote to one side, not ALL sides.

    AKA ‘the Quartzsite 10’ had personal anti-Chief ideas for being passed over for promotions, etc. at brought their complaints to a public forum which is against their Code of Ethics, but you weren’t there.

    The AZCOP representative was seen smiling on the video when the minority was trying to incite a riot, but you weren’t there.

    I would assume a little increase in a Police Chief’s salary, when he is exempt from overtime, is smaller than a salary of a Police Officer who has had lots of overtime pay. The Chief announced his salary at the Meeting, but you weren’t there.

    There was an audit completed and handed out at the Town Meeting when it was on the Agenda, but you weren’t here.

    Finally, you weren’t there, you haven’t had all sides to the story and in spite of all that you not only use names but very inflammatory and profane ones. Sad.

  6. Milton W T permalink

    citizen, you are so thickheaded it is pathetic. Who are you? If you know anyone involved in this whole story, whether it is the council, gilbert- or even people on the other side- great maybe resolve this standoff once and for all. Do it for the good of the town. It’s simple numbers many people are against this council and what has happened. All the major media has been against the council, against gilbert and against any fools hanging onto their side. It isn’t the “feud” or even what has happened since 2010 when Mayor Foster first took office.

    It’s about a woman, Ms. Jones, losing her first amendment rights because of a false arrest caused by the council. I don’t care if she is an unpleasant muckraker she has just as many rights as you do and if you don’t believe that frankly you are part of the problem, citizen.

    The council, determined to oppose their opponents thru any means necessary and protect any crimes from being exposed (99.9% certain there are not just political crimes but financial ones as well, dating to 1991 costing the city Millions. I am 100% on there crimes being committed especially by Gilbert and a few of the strong personalities of the council and the city manager Alex Taft.) they declare a state of emergency, taking away thousands of citizens rights, because of a few pissy emails, the blowback because of all that has transpired, and they just want to govern autocratically without the people having a say or an option. Meetings before the June 28 arrest shown how frustrated the council has gotten with the hoi polloi, the unwashed masses that are like the Plague to them. The people are good of course, I am trying to reflect the obvious view of the council the one that they have of their constituents, and it is not positive in the least. It is an un-American, silly, and ridiculous way to govern in the Internet media age.

    If you know Mayor Foster, the reporter Ms. Jones, and the critics, you know what maybe bring people together and find a way out of this mess. Maybe a third way where everyone in power steps down, where Mr. Foster steps down without having done anything wrong (at least in my opinion) the council not only lifts the state of emergency they agree to some kind of fines/jail time/something substantial but less than if they let this drag out by clinging to power.

    There are major holes in your argument, such as when you talk about gilbert’s current salary. You talk about it but won’t even say what it is! Also, this is the first of any audit I’ve heard of concerning Quartzsite. Link to the audit? Even if you had a link it would be a fake made up document by the Quartzsite council or even more pathetically, yourself.

    Please lay out what you think of the council, the councils opponents, gilbert, and just about everything else. either you are a run of the mill citizen or you are a shill. If you are a shill your credibility is shot. I simply came into this because of what one side has done that is all. I am way beyond namecalling. I believe in calling a spade a spade surely you can respect that.

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